tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10000498.post5410023728188157324..comments2024-03-22T22:27:57.474-04:00Comments on Inside the Hotdog Factory: Canada: Spies Like Us -- Richard FaddenWhetam Gnauckweirsthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06038247522187261808noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10000498.post-17138090937455044852010-07-06T05:11:04.687-04:002010-07-06T05:11:04.687-04:00He only said what we all suspected anyways. Whate...He only said what we all suspected anyways. Whatever.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10000498.post-92185567412576107652010-07-05T17:08:51.874-04:002010-07-05T17:08:51.874-04:00Yes and I never meant to imply you had specificall...Yes and I never meant to imply you had specifically stated Fadden had anything to do with the lawmaking process. You had made a comment about Canadian law allowing this sort of spying, and given that this is a topic about Fadden's comments I clarified the point. I agree that in a general sense, it's pretty weak that Canadian law makes way for foreign (and domestic) espionage.<br /><br /> I certainly didn't get the impression that "everybody EXCEPT Canadians has influence with our government", especially given that Fadden specifically stated it was only a two to four MP's that were thought behaving under the influence of foreign powers.<br /><br /> I do agree that it's pretty lame that he's backpeddling now however.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10000498.post-24155413093778326442010-07-05T16:52:58.820-04:002010-07-05T16:52:58.820-04:00To be clear, I think Fadden is a schmuck for sayin...To be clear, I think Fadden is a schmuck for saying "Fadden told the committee he lost track of the fact that CBC was recording the speech he gave to the Royal Canadian Military in Toronto on March 26, when he first publicly raised the issue of foreign influence."<br /><br />Lost track of the fact CBC was recording him?<br /><br />That's schmucky.<br /><br />Lighting a fire under politicians? That's cool.<br /><br />Saying "I really didn't think I was giving away any state secrets." Schmucky. He should be more sure than that!<br /><br />Putting politicians on notice he knows what they're up to -- cool.Whetam Gnauckweirsthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06038247522187261808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10000498.post-68212407283495292822010-07-05T16:39:00.077-04:002010-07-05T16:39:00.077-04:00I never stated that Fadden had any part in making ...I never stated that Fadden had any part in making law. I was speaking of the law in general -- in all it's flaccid, retarded, loop-hole-ridden weakness.<br /><br />If there's a Canadian official as calculating as you say Fadden is -- to make statements to head-off trouble -- then great. I don't believe such a creature exists.<br /><br />I think it's hilarious (in a very unfunny way) that Canada's top spy spilled the beans. Also, that it seems everybody EXCEPT Canadians has influence with our government.<br /><br />I still hope REAL secrets are withheld from Fadden, just in case he's not the calculating master spy some believe him to be.Whetam Gnauckweirsthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06038247522187261808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10000498.post-591609697912075242010-07-05T16:34:13.773-04:002010-07-05T16:34:13.773-04:00He only admitted having made a mistake after publi...He only admitted having made a mistake after public outcry toward what he said, which doesn't strike me as a real admission.<br /><br />It seems most likely to me his original comments were calculated, and Richard Fadden has nothing to do with lawmaking or "typical of Canadian law that (is) allows spies to operate legally in this country."<br /><br />Richard Fadden is the only individual in the Canadian Government to openly discuss, even to such a small degree, what is obvious: foreign entities have been attempting to influence Canadian Government officials. This make him more trustworthy in my opinion that the majority of politicians who would rather the public live with their heads in the sand.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10000498.post-78298745126800667432010-07-05T16:22:37.407-04:002010-07-05T16:22:37.407-04:00That's an impressive list of links.
Nothing o...That's an impressive list of links.<br /><br />Nothing occurred to me other than that Richard Fadden is a schmuck.<br /><br />Typical of Canadian law that is allows spies to operate legally in this country. With feebs like Fadden on the job, they must be skating circles around us.<br /><br />Fadden wasn't honest with the public, he admits it was a mistake saying what he said. That's not honesty. He just accidentally told the truth. There's a difference.Whetam Gnauckweirsthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06038247522187261808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10000498.post-6366700241807627652010-07-05T16:09:01.953-04:002010-07-05T16:09:01.953-04:00Did it occur to you that Richard Fadden's stat...Did it occur to you that Richard Fadden's statements were calculated to discourage certain individuals from questionable actions who CSIS legally couldn't arrest? Even if that isn't the case you'd have to be living under a rock not to realize many foreign powers have an interest in influencing Government officials in Canada, and frankly I'm pleased that Richard Fadden is honest with the public about it. This isn't the first time a Canadian official has talked about spies within Canadian borders, and Canada has been the victim of A LOT of spy-related activity, as you can see in the references below.<br /><br /> - 01/24/2000 : Channel News Asia : Beijing Spies Stole Canadian Nuclear Secrets<br /> http://www.fas.org/news/china/2000/e-01-24-00-22.htm<br /><br /> - 01/31/2000 : Asian Political News : Chinese spies reportedly stole Canada's nuclear technology<br /> http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0WDQ/is_2000_Jan_31/ai_59332184/<br /><br /> - 09/06/2002 : The National Post / Rense : Israeli Mossad Spies Accused of Posing as Canadians<br /> http://www.rense.com/general29/cana.htm<br /><br /> - 09/19/2003 : Ottawa Sun / Cryptome : Nine Israelis face deportation: Spy agency suspects they may be foreign agents<br /> http://cryptome.org/ca-il-spies.htm<br /><br /> - 06/15/2005 : CBC : Defectors say China running 1,000 spies in Canada<br /> http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2005/06/15/spies050615.html<br /><br /> - 06/16/2005 : CTV : Chinese spies cost Canada billions: Harper<br /> http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/1118953947201_114363147/?hub=TopStories<br /><br /> - 04/16/2006 : Canada.com : Government vows to curb Chinese spying on Canada<br /> http://www.canada.com/montrealgazette/news/story.html?id=ca90416e-fe77-4b8d-ae59-a4e9f55b6441&k=26688<br /><br /> - 05/09/2006 : Asian Pacific Post : Shhhh! Don’t speak about Chinese spies (This is an editorial written by Raymond Chan, the MP of Richmond, BC at the time)<br /> http://www.asianpacificpost.com/portal2/ff8080810afb0f71010b1b6c2aaf012f_Editorial_Chinese_spies.do.html<br /> <br /> - 12/28/2006 : The Moscow Times : Accused Spy Deported by Canada<br /> http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/accused-spy-deported-by-canada/199996.html<br /><br /> - 04/30/2007 : CTV : China is top espionage risk to Canada according to CSIS<br /> http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20070430/csis_china_070430/20070430?hub=Canada0<br /><br /> - 04/30/2007 : The Star : China tops spy list: CSIS<br /> http://www.thestar.com/news/article/208929<br /><br /> - 12/04/2008 : CBC : Financial intelligence uncovers foreign espionage in Canada<br /> http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2008/12/04/fintrac-espionage.html<br /><br /> - 03/30/2009 : CBC : Reported internet spy network just tip of iceberg: researcher<br /> http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2009/03/30/tech-090330-cyberspy-china.html<br /><br /> - 04/14/2009 : Dalje.com : More Foreign Spies Targeting Canada – Report<br /> http://dalje.com/en-world/more-foreign-spies-targeting-canada---report/251072<br /><br /> - 09/25/2009 : The World : Canada as a top spot for spies<br /> http://www.theworld.org/2009/09/25/canada-as-a-top-spot-for-spies/<br /><br /> - Take note of this quote from the following article, "since the end of the Cold War we moved from a military confrontation to an economic confrontation so everyone is fighting to try and acquire as much economic leverage as possible internationally -- which translates into political power and influence at the end," from former CSIS agent Michel Juneau-Katsuya, and consider what it says about our Government and its relationship with local, national and international corporations. Personally I've found it strange that we trust corporations with sensitive information, but freak out at the thought of a foreign Government having such information -- especially since a corporation's allegiance to the almight dollar means they're just as likely to sell a country and its people out to satisfy stock holders or gain an economic advantage themselves.<br /> http://www.trinustech.com/news/17-uncovering-canadian-corporate-spiesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com